Company H, 4th Virginia Cavalry, C.S.A. Black Horse Cavalry A Research Compendium · Lynn Hopewell
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John William Payne

1846–1903

Confirmed by: M V K Y

Confederate Service Record

Dark complexion, sandy hair, grey eyes; paroled 11 May 1865 Winchester.

John William Payne M V K Y Photo: Born: 29 January 1846,[2979] in Culpeper County.[2980] 29 June 1846.[2981] Married: Mary Crimora Yancey on 22 December 1875, who “died 15 Aug 1881 at the age of 31”. He married Sallie Thomas Yancey on 28 Aug 1883. She “was born 25 May 1845 and died 6 Dec 1909; they were buried at “Bleak Hill”; their graves are marked. His wives were sisters,” daughters of Catherine J. Banks and Benjamin Mitchell Yancey.[2982] Died: 30 January 1903,[2983] at Alanthus,[2984] in Culpeper County.[2985] He was buried at Bleak Hill in Culpeper County, and his grave marked.[2986] [The graves in the “Bleak Hill” cemetery were relocated to the Culpeper City cemetery in Culpeper, Va][2987] 30 July 1903.[2988] Per Krick, died at Alanthus, age 57, Jan 30, 1903, Fbg. Star, 1/31/03, p3, c.4. # Alanthus is in Culpeper County near Brandy Station. “He and his wives were buried at Bleak Hill.”[2989] Obituary: One may be found in the Fredericksburg StarFbg. Star, 1/31/ January 1903, page 3, column. 4.[2990] # Children: “There were no children by his m(1). By his m(2) there were 4 children—Mary C., Emma C., Frances K., and Crimora Y.”[2991] Mary Catherine was born 29 September 1876; she wed Charles Miller Waite. Emma Carson was born 1 June 1878; she wed Ernest Clifton Porter. Frances Keith was born 26 September 1879; she wed Turner Ratrie. Crimora Yancey was born 1 August 1881; she wed Douglas Thrift. All four were living in 1937.[2992] All of John William Payne’s daughters were born between 1876 and 1881. His first marriage began in 1875; his first wife died fourteen days after the birth of the youngest daughter, who was named for her. The above statement that the four children were daughters of the second Mrs. Payne seems to be incorrect. This is supported by the tombstone of the oldest daughter: “Catherine Payne, wife of Charles Miller Waite, daughter of John William and Crimora Yancey Payne [his first wife], September 29, 1876– February 26, 1943.”[2993] Perhaps this source mixed him up with his father, who also married twice, whose wives also were related by birth, but whose children were from his second, not his first, marriage. Parents and Siblings: Judith Steptoe Keith (5 February 1820–9 March 1867) and John Woodville Payne (20 April 1813–14 February 1850). His father was born at Bleak Hill and wed Judith on 25 February 1841. John Woodville Payne wed first Agatha Eustace Blackwell; his wives were first cousins. John William Payne, of the Black Horse, had no siblings from his father’s first marriage. He was one of six children of John Woodville and Judith—Mary M., James R., Thomas K., Ella L., John W., and George A.[2994] According to these dates, his father died at age thirty-seven; John William [BH] had just turned four. Other Family: His home was Glen Mary, which was his father’s and adjoined Bleak Hill. Glen Mary “was about 6 miles from” Culpeper Courthouse.[2995] See the entry of Alexander Dixon Payne [BH] for info on this cavalryman’s paternal grandfather, Richard Payne. His maternal grandparents are given at entry of Severe Francis Gallie Beale, with info on his mother’s sister, who wed Sev. His paternal grandmother, Mary Major, was daughter of Samuel Major and Mary Stone; Mary Stone was the sister of Frances Stone, who was wife of George Payne and mother of Richard Payne. Richard and Mary Major were first cousins. Mary (Stone) Major and Frances (Stone) Payne were daughters of William Stone and Mary Monroe. Miss Monroe’s sister Sarah married William Stone’s brother Francis … was going from Stone Notes, Payne; got stopped by Monroe Notes, Payne; see following. Our primary Payne Family source conflicts on parents of Mary, wife of Samuel Major & mother of Mary Major. Her maiden name would have been either Mary Monroe, daughter of George Monroe, or Mary Stone, daughter of Mary (Monroe) Stone and William Stone. The Monroe Family notes of this source state, “George [Monroe] … had several children, among whom was Mary (1739-1809) who m. Samuel Major. Her dau. Mary Major m. Richard Payne, grand-son of above John Payne [who married Jane Monroe; Jane Monroe and John Payne were the parents of George Payne].” This Mary Monroe would have been 40 or 41 years of age at the birth of Mary Major. The Stone Family notes of this source state that William Stone married Mary Monroe; his will named daughter Mary Stone; “Mary Stone m. Samuel Major, and had a dau. Mary (b. 1780), who m. Richard Payne (VI-7) [son of George].” Mary Monroe and William Stone were the parents of Frances Stone, who was George Payne’s wife and mother of Richard Payne. If Mary Monroe and William Stone were also the parents of Samuel Major’s wife, then Mary Major and Richard Payne would have been first cousins through their mothers being sisters. Whether the foregoing or George Monroe and his unnamed wife were the parents of Samuel Major’s wife, Mary Major and Richard Payne were still second cousins. In the foregoing case: through siblings Mary (Monroe) Stone and Jane (Monroe) Payne; in the latter: through siblings George Monroe and Jane (Monroe) Payne. So, Mary Major and Richard Payne were either second cousins only; or first and second cousins. They were also second cousins to President James Monroe.[2996] [Put a transition here if keep following: [Several of John William Payne’s siblings married Fants; see the Fant brothers’ entries.] **Make sure this is right. His wives’ maternal grandparents were Dr. William Tunstall Banks and Clara H., of Madison County. “These sisters inherited considerable land.”[2997] His daughter Catherine married “Charles Miller Waite, son of Major Charles Waite and Julia Frances Miller Waite, October 14, 1870–December 25, 1957.” “Crimora Yancey Waite, daughter of Charles Miller Waite and Catherine Payne Waite, July 2, 1906–February 15, 1991.”[2998] John William Payne passed three years before this granddaughter’s birth. Her tombstone shows only her maiden name. A photograph of Crimora Y. Waite hangs in the Culpeper County Public Library. Stories, Letters & Biographies: CSR: Dark complexion, sandy hair, grey eyes; paroled 11 May 1865 Winchester. Additional Information: J. W. Payne.[2999] “In Apl 1864 he enlisted in the “Black Horse Cavalry” … and served till the close of the war.”[3000]

This entry contains 22 footnote references. The full bibliography is in the References section.

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Source Rosters

  • M Martin Roll (most authoritative)
  • V Vanished Roster (~1874–1878)
  • K K.I. Keith Roster (1924)
  • Y Nanzig Register

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From A Biographical Register of the Members of Fauquier County Virginia's Black Horse Cavalry, 1859–1865. Compiled by Lynn C. Hopewell (1940–2006), with editorial assistance by Susan W. Roberts and research by Heidi Burke. Manuscript completed February 28, 2008. Published posthumously.

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